Well, Ben Reilly (who came back to life a few years back, don’t ask) is taking up the webs again for a while while Peter is out with an as yet unexplained injury. keep Peter as a barely employed hobo in his daily lifeĪll to make sure that whenever he bothered to take over Earth… if he ever bothered… that he would win. kill or seriously harm multiple romantic interests Mephisto made a deal with Norman Osborn to start a chain of events that would: This is also why Mephisto gave Kindred demonic powers. Nope! You see, the whole reason this whole Green Goblin thing started in the first place was that Norman Osborn sold his son’s soul to the devil in order to gain power in the world. More zombies? Or was this all an illusion?
Not all of this was actually Chameleon’s tech, though, as Kindred was actually capable of resurrecting the dead! Working with the Chameleon again, Cyber Harry starts going as Kindred while using both bodies as puppets, and uses the Chameleon’s tech to disguise themselves as eldrich horrors. Ok, so that plot point makes a little more sense. And Cyber Harry made Norman only think he slept with Gwen, with Mysterio’s help! This is why he was magically better! It also has the nice note of not undoing his original death.Īlso, Norman never slept with Gwen Stacy! That was a weird plot by Harry’s mad cyber ghost to mess with both Norman and Peter! Instead, they’re clones of Peter and Gwen that the cyber ghost can take over and control. This would leave fans with Ben Reilly, the original Peter Parker who now had different hair, a different outlook on life, a different supporting cast, and even a different costume. This includes the Clone Saga, where they were willing to make the Peter Parker fans had read about since 1973’s Amazing Spider-Man 149 into an impostor and have him ride off into the sunset with MJ and a new baby. Rather than embrace growth and change, many writers tried their best to find a way to get rid of Mary Jane. To them, their Spider-Man was single, or a high schooler despite having graduated by issue 30 of the original freaking comic in 1968. To make an incredibly stupid story simple, most writers who worked on Spider-Man after about 1990 detested the fact that he had married Mary Jane Watson. Now that we’ve caught up on that bullshit, we also have to talk about the time Spider-Man made a deal with the literal devil to save Aunt May’s life at the cost of his marriage and unconceived daughter. Yeah, but you keep artists from swiping stock images.
#Spiderman vs skeleton movie#
So, was someone desperate to have TLJ play Osborn? Wasn’t this after the first movie with Willem Dafoe? Harry almost killed everyone they both loved, but snapped back and saved everyone before dying of a heart attack in the beautiful Spectacular Spider-Man 200. The end result was him balancing between sanity and madness. After all, Peter was present when Norman died in Amazing Spider-Man 122. Harry had taken up the mantle of the Green Goblin to torment Peter despite claiming to be his friend. Turns out they’re not Norman’s kids, but are instead clones of Gwen and… maybe Peter? They were made by the vengeful digital ghost of Harry Osborn as revenge against his best friend Peter Parker for indirectly killing Norman Osborn.īut Norman’s alive.
You know, to make Spider-Man more identifiable with the kids!
One of whom looked almost exactly like Gwen Stacy, and the other looked a lot like Peter Parker. So instead, JMS and the other Spider writers made it so Norman Osborn was the father of these poor children. After all, having children ages a character, especially if they’re fully-grown children, as JMS had planned to have these new kids fight and be brainwashed by Norman Osborn. However, Editor min Chief of Marvel Comics Joe Quesada had a conniption fit. JMS found a loophole in the comics where Gwen could have gone and gotten an abortion or given birth to twins if she had been pregnant without anyone knowing. She and Peter had dated on and off multiple times before her death in Amazing Spider-Man 121 at the hands of the Green Goblin (the Norman Osborn incarnation). To make a very long and incredibly stupid story short, they’re the remnants from a 2004 storyline called Sins Past, in which head writer John Michael Strazynski wanted to shake up the Spider-Man mythos by adding a real romantic angle to his past with Gwen Stacy. Yeah, the Centipede guys! What was even their deal?
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